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David Collier wrote:> I see that busybox spreads it’s links over these 4 directories.
- > Is there a simple rule which decides which directory each link lives > in …..
- > For instance I see kill is in / bin and killall in / usr / bin …. I don’t > have a grip on what might be the logic for that. You know how Ken Thompson and Dennis Ritchie created Unix on a PDP-7 in Well around 1997 they upgraded to a PDP – 30 with a pair of RK (disk packs) 1.5 megabytes each) for storage. When the operating system grew too big to fit on the first RK (disk pack) their root filesystem) they let it leak into the second one, which is where all the user home directories lived (which is why the mount was called / usr). They replicated all the OS directories under there (/ bin, / sbin, / lib, / tmp …) and wrote files to those new directories because their original disk was out of space. When they got a third disk, they mounted it on / home and relocated all the user directories to there so the OS could consume all the space on both disks and grow to THREE WHOLE MEGABYTES (ooooh!). Of course they made rules about “when the system first boots, it has to come up enough to be able to mount the second disk on / usr, so don’t put things like the mount command / usr / bin or we’ll have a chicken and egg problem bringing the system up. “Fairly straightforward. Also fairly specific to v6 unix of years ago. The / bin vs / usr / bin split (and all the others) is an artifact of this, a 1971 ‘s implementation detail that got carried forward for decades by bureaucrats who never question _why_ they’re doing things. It stopped making any sense before Linux was ever invented, for multiple reasons: 1) Early system bringup is the provice of initrd and initramfs, which deals With the “this file is needed before that file” issues. We’ve already _got_ a temporary system that boots the main system. 2) shared libraries (introduced by the Berkeley guys) prevent you from independently upgrading the / lib and / usr / bin parts. They two partitions have to _match_ or they won’t work. This was the case in 1974, back then they had a certain level of independence because everything was statically linked. 3) Cheap retail hard drives passed the (megabyte mark around) , and partition resizing software showed up somewhere around there (partition magic 3.0 shipped in 1990. Of course once the split existed, some people made other rules to justify it. Root was for the OS stuff you got from upstream and / usr was for your site- local files. Then / was for the stuff you got from AT&T and / usr was for the stuff that your distro like IBM AIX or Dec Ultrix or SGI Irix added to it, and / usr / local was for your specific installation’s files. Then somebody decided / usr / local wasn’t a good place to install new packages, so let’s add / opt! I’m still waiting for / opt / local to show up … Of course given 30 years to fester, this split made some interesting distro- specific rules show up and go away again, such as “/ tmp is cleared between reboots but / usr / tmp isn’t “. (Of course on Ubuntu / usr / tmp doesn’t exist and on Gentoo / usr / tmp is a symlink to / var / tmp which now has the “not cleared between reboots “rule. Yes all this predated tmpfs. It has to do with read- only root filesystems, / usr is always going to be read only in that case and / var is where your writable space is, / is _mostly_ read only except for bits of / etc which they tried to move to / var but really symlinking / etc to / var / etc happens more often than not …) Standards bureaucracies like the Linux Foundation (which consumed the Free Standards Group in its’ ever-growing accretion disk years ago) happily document and add to this sort of complexity without ever trying to understand why it was there in the first place. ‘Ken and Dennis leaked their OS into the equivalent of home because an RK (disk pack on the PDP – was too small “goes whoosh over their heads. I’m pretty sure the busybox install just puts binaries wherever other versions of those binaries have historically gone. There’s no actual REASON for any of it anymore. Personally, I symlink / bin / sbin and / lib to their / usr equivalents on systems I put together. Embedded guys try to understand and simplify … Rob – GPLv3: as worthy a successor as The Phantom Menace, as timely as Duke Nukem Forever, and as welcome as New Coke.
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