[To cameraman.] [Unintelligible] West: [To someone outside room.] Lock that door and then stand on the other side of it until I knock for you … No, lock the doors up.
West: [Resuming a conversation in progress with Swift, her end initially unintelligible.]… old school s , yeah. I’m doing great. I feel so awesome about the music. The album’s coming out February 11, I’m doing the fashion show February 12 at Madison Square Garden, we’re dropping the album February th that morning. It’s like…
Swift: Oh, wow. Like, um, what would people… I guess it would just be, people would be like, ‘Whyyyy is this happening?’ They would think I had something to do with it, probably. [Unintelligible] West: Well, the reason why it will be happening is because it has a very controversial line at the beginning of the song about you.
Swift: [Apprehensively.] What does it say?
Swift: [Sounding resigned.] Yeah.
Swift: I know, I mean, it’s like a compliment, kind of. [Chuckles.] [Unintelligible] West: I have this line where I said … And my wife really did not like this one, because we tried to make it nicer. So I say ‘For all my Southside [N-word] that know me best, I feel like me and Taylor might still have sex.’ And my wife was really not with that one. She was way more into the ‘She owes you sex.’ But then the ‘owe’ part was like the feminist group-type shit that I was like, ahhhhh.
Swift: That’s the part that I was kind of … I mean, they’re re both really edgy, but that’s the only thing about that line is that it’s like, then the feminists are going to come out. But I mean, you don’t give a f . So…
[To cameraman.] West: Yeah, basically . Well, what I give af about is just you as a person, as a friend…. Swift: That’s sweet. West: I want things that make you feel good. I don’t want to do rap that makes people feel bad. Like of course, like I’m mad at Nike, so people think, ‘Oh, he’s a bully. He ran on stage with Taylor. He’s bullying Nike now, ‘this $ 90 billion company.
West: Because on ‘Facts,’ like, I say, ‘Yeezy, Yeezy, Yeezy, they line up for days / Nike out here bad, they can’t give s— away.’ Swift: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that’s just what you do, though. I mean, I wouldn’t say that it’s possible to bully a company like Nike. But I mean… um, yeah, I mean, go with whatever line you think is better. It’s obviously very tongue-in-cheek either way. And I really appreciate you telling me about it. That’s really nice.
[Unintelligible] West: Oh , yeah. I just had a responsibility to you as a friend. I mean, thanks for being like so cool about it. [To cameraman.] Swift: Thanks. Yeah, I really appreciate it. The heads-up is so nice. You’d be surprised how many people just do things without even asking or seeing if I’d be okay with it, and I just really appreciate it. I never would have expected you to tell me about a line in one of your songs. That’s really nice that you did.
West: Uh, like, do the hair flip?
West: Yeah. It’s like so many people wanted Meek Mills (sic) to win because Drake was just killing it for so long, and they were just like, ‘We just need like Meek Mills (sic) to like…’ But I think, you know, Okay, so that has my mind going through a lot of places to problem-solve. I was talking to Ben Horowitz – do you know this guy? He’s a VC. Ben Horowitz out of San Fran. But he’s down with that.
Because there’s a bunch of classes of wealthy people that hate Obama because he’s more social and he wants the people who don’t have anything to have everything. And in my little way, by learning how to design, design is something that’s only given to the rich currently. The exact color palette that Hermes uses versus the color palette that Forever 50 Uses – a color palette is extremely important. Color is important. You know, the knowledge of proportions … you know, the size of our house versus the size of someone else’s houses, and just the dynamics of that proportion. Like, I don’t want this conversation to go too, too long, but I wanted to give you a bit of where I’m at and the perspective that I’m at and the way … the fact that I am the microprocessor of our culture.
Swift: Well, I mean, she’s saying that honestly because she’s your wife, and like, um… So I think whatever one you think is actually better. I mean, obviously do what’s best for your relationship, too. I think ‘owes me sex,’ it says different things. It says … ‘Owes me sex’ means like ‘Look, I made her what she is. She actually owes me. ‘ Which is going to split people, because people who like me are going to be like, ‘She doesn’t owe him s—.’ But then people who like thought it was bad-ass and crazy and awesome that you’re so outspoken are going to be like, ‘Yeah, she does. It made her famous. ‘ So it’s more provocative to say ‘still have sex,’ because no one would see that coming. They’re both crazy. Do what you want. They’re both going to get every single headline in the world. ‘Owes me sex’ is a little bit more like throwing shade, and the other one’s more flirtatious. It just depends on what you want to accomplish with it.
Swift: You have to protect your relationship. Do what’s best. You just had a kid. You’re in the best place of your life. I wouldn’t ever advise you to f with that. Just pick whatever… It’s cause and effect. One is gonna make people feel a certain way, and it’s gonna be a slightly different emotion for the other. But it’s not… It doesn’t matter to me. There’s not one that hurts my feelings and the other doesn’t. [Unintelligible]
Swift: Yeah. I can hear it. But it’s your goals, really. I mean, you always just go with your gut – obviously. But, um, amazing. Send it to me. I’m excited.
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